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according to s8n shadow company, isn't allowed a sub company and so I'm creating this thread to see people opinions on the matter.

from what I have heard s8n (I think) said that shadow doesn't need a sub-company because it does everything (this is what I have heard)

so since he said that does that allow shadow company to fly LAAT's and ARC 170's and drive AT-RT or BARC speeders? or do navy and CG work?  

if shadow company doesn't get a sub-company it's going to be really boring and shadow will probably disappear in the near future 

 

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If you can't find enjoyment in a regiment by it being there alone, then does that regiment deserve to be there in the first place?

Shadow Company already has access to one of the most unique loadouts on the server, being literally the ONLY regiment able to use active camouflage. Why should they be provided even more when they are, realistically, only a Company in the first place?

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This is not the correct format for change on this matter. In future I would suggest leaving these matters to the co’s of the regiment as they understand the correct form of change and are directly apart of any negotiations that may take place. 

If there are any further issues please feel free to contact me in game or on discord/teamspeak 

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We discussed why Shadow Company doesn't have sub-companies within the regiment and I fail to see why you felt it was appropriate to try to take it any further.

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24 minutes ago, AnnoyingTaco (Herd) said:

If you can't find enjoyment in a regiment by it being there alone, then does that regiment deserve to be there in the first place?

Shadow Company already has access to one of the most unique loadouts on the server, being literally the ONLY regiment able to use active camouflage. Why should they be provided even more when they are, realistically, only a Company in the first place?

As Alpha said, you guys get privileges that no other regiment get. I understand that in your position you may think that there isn't much variety but shadow company is a specialised unit. Them getting more than they already do would be incredibly unfair to all the other regiments. Imagine how 13th sky corps would feel if they found out that shadow company could fly ARC-170's aswell. If you want something particular on the server, go join the regiment that specialises in it. 

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Shadow Company was implemented with the intention of being "elite" and housing a new style of playability that no other regiment had to offer ie cloak, snipers, stealth, etc. 

I can't really justify adding companies to a COMPANY when the intention of the regiment was to be what it is; a small-ish squad with unique weapons and opportunities. 

11 minutes ago, Pickle/Limbo said:

from what I have heard s8n (I think) said that shadow doesn't need a sub-company because it does everything (this is what I have heard)

What I was asked "is it possible to make any? so like airbourne troopers for infiltration and an elite varient" I probably worded it wrong when saying "should be able to do anything" but the basis is that shadow company should already be able to do infiltration and should already be elite and if they aren't, then that's the CO's problem and they're doing their job wrong.

13 minutes ago, Pickle/Limbo said:

so since he said that does that allow shadow company to fly LAAT's and ARC 170's and drive AT-RT or BARC speeders? or do navy and CG work?  

Flying LAAT's and ARC 170's is pilots job, driving AT-RT's and BARC Speeders is ghost company, 91st, and 41st job and doing Navy and CG work is Navy and CG's job... I don't know why you think Shadow Company needs to do any of these roles, they don't accompany the role of stealth at all; flying a LAAT or driving an AT-RT is stealthy at all. 

I feel like you're trying to compare Shadow Company to something like 7th Sky Corps, everything that Shadow Company has is all it needs an is all that's necessary. 

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6 minutes ago, Nexoit said:

This is not the correct format for change on this matter. In future I would suggest leaving these matters to the co’s of the regiment as they understand the correct form of change and are directly apart of any negotiations that may take place. 

can't blame a man for wanting outside opinions on something

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Shadow Company has a mass amount of potential if its members apply themselves.
Yes, there may be restrictions on the active camo usage, etc. but that doesn't change the fact that they have, in my opinion, one of the best loadouts of any regiment.
There is no need for a sub-company, it would be a waste of time. 
I'm sure Crossfire (Chroma) and Centurion both have some brilliant ideas for the regiment, and are no doubt in the process of opening up more opportunities for roleplay potential within the regiment - maybe discuss with them some of your ideas or issues that you currently experience at the moment and see what you can collectively come up with to resolve such.
 

 
 
 
56 minutes ago, Pickle/Limbo said:

so since he said that does that allow shadow company to fly LAAT's and ARC 170's and drive AT-RT or BARC speeders? or do navy and CG work?   

This statement is wack.
Why should they fly LAATs and ARC170s? What purpose does that serve? Why should a stealth regiment drive AT-RTs and BARC speeders? Those aren't very stealthy and make a lot of noise.
Why should they do Navy and CG work? Does Shadow Company know how to operate the hyperdrive? Should a stealth regiment open and close dorsal doors?
Same with doing CG work; does the CO of Shadow Company deepthroat Palpatine? No.
I can see Shadow Company working alongside CG for investigations and such, but we have Naval Intelligence for that.

I personally see Shadow as a recon/stealth based roleplay regiment that uses their stealth to gain intel, to do reconnaissance, and protect the interests of the republic.  
As Nexoit said, take it up with your COs and talk to your fellow Shadow Company troopers.

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I fail to see what sub companies within Shadow would even do. How do you make elite variants of something that is already supposed to be elite? 

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thanks for all the replies I now have a better understanding of things and also when I said the things about the vehicles I was just basing it off the shadow does everything.

I put this up to see other peoples opinions about the matter as since I have not been on the server that long I knew the forums could help 

again thanks for the feedback.

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(the sub company we would have added would have been airborne)

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33 minutes ago, Pickle/Limbo said:

thanks for all the replies I now have a better understanding of things and also when I said the things about the vehicles I was just basing it off the shadow does everything.

I put this up to see other peoples opinions about the matter as since I have not been on the server that long I knew the forums could help 

again thanks for the feedback.

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(the sub company we would have added would have been airborne)

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you can't add a sub-company to a company.

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Ignoring the "Companies can't have companies", cause there can be squadrons/detatchments. 

Why would a stealth unit need airborn? Like, wouldn't the sound of jetpacks be a giant giveaway that you're there? Doesn't seem to fit their style

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8 hours ago, Coric said:

Ignoring the "Companies can't have companies", cause there can be squadrons/detatchments. 

Why would a stealth unit need airborn? Like, wouldn't the sound of jetpacks be a giant giveaway that you're there? Doesn't seem to fit their style

Nah dude, just give them noclip! 😎

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17 minutes ago, Vyve said:

Nah dude, just give them noclip! 😎

Yeah, pretend they're antman. Just reeeeally small and can fit through walls.

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Pretty sure @s8ncaat  summed it up. Shadow was implemented to be set a new bar above ARC in being classed as the " most elite " ( Shadow was made in lore to replace ARC) But that idea didn't really ferment into anything proper. Shadow already has the most OP loadout in the game by far and with a cloaking device that is already too OP and unfair on NPC driven events.(IMO) Your job IS infiltration/stealth, so giving you airbourne doesn't make sense when compared to other regiments like 7th or 501ST that extremely open specializations it makes sense they get sub-companies to bring more depth to the job "frontline" which on our server doesn't really have a set a role. Doesn't make sense to give your already very specialized regiment something that will make them even MORE over-powered.

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7 minutes ago, Alex said:

Pretty sure @s8ncaat  summed it up. Shadow was implemented to be set a new bar above ARC in being classed as the " most elite " ( Shadow was made in lore to replace ARC) But that idea didn't really ferment into anything proper. Shadow already has the most OP loadout in the game by far and with a cloaking device that is already too OP and unfair on NPC driven events.(IMO) Your job IS infiltration/stealth, so giving you airbourne doesn't make sense when compared to other regiments like 7th or 501ST that extremely open specializations it makes sense they get sub-companies to bring more depth to the job "frontline" which on our server doesn't really have a set a role. Doesn't make sense to give your already very specialized regiment something that will make them even MORE over-powered.

you can't really have a regiment that is meant to be "more elite than ARC" when they hold tryouts every day and with a much lower bar of entry than ARC

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Just now, Frostiey said:

you can't really have a regiment that is meant to be "more elite than ARC" when they hold tryouts every day and with a much lower bar of entry than ARC

 

Not saying they are more elite I'm saying that's why S8n and Budd's implemented them and its in their lore. 

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